Well, here we go: the only real debate between the candidates for President of the United States during this election cycle. We have 8 weeks to go until November 5th. Both candidates are, for reasons passing understanding, neck and neck in the polls. (Don't read the polls!) Just remember what President George HW Bush said during the 1988 campaign: "It's no exaggeration to say the undecideds could go one way or the other."
I'll update this post throughout the event. I'm watching the PBS broadcast on YouTube, if it matters.
All times are local to the event site, Eastern Daylight Time:
21:03: "We're looking forward to a spirited...debate."
21:04: "Are we better off than four years ago?" You mean, during the darkest time of the pandemic?
(I'm adjusting my monitor, because those two people can't possibly have the same skin color. One of them might be wearing way too much makeup.)
21:05: Harris labels the 20% tariffs a "sales tax," which it is.
21:05: The XPOTUS really doesn't understand how tariffs work. Tariffs are paid by the country imposing them.
21:07: "Inflation like no one has ever seen before." Harris is laughing at him. Then "Jobs are being taken from African-Americans" and she rolls her eyes, which I almost missed because I was rolling mine.
21:08: "What we have done is clean up [the XPOTUS's] mess. ... You're going to hear from the same old tired playbook."
21:10: Maybe appealing to the authorities of the Wharton School and Morgan Stanley might not be her best appeal to the voters. But then again, he doesn't actually know the name of the school where he got his MBA.
21:11: WTF is "run, spot, run?"
21:12: He just does not get what tariffs do. It's sad, really.
21:13: OK, he's starting to yell now. (DUDE, HE'S NOT THE PRESIDENT.)
21:14: Harris is controlling this debate. He's completely on defense. She's openly laughing at him now.
21:16: Hey, XPOTUS, what about your complete flip-flop on abortion? "They have abortion in the 9th month! The baby will be born and we'll execute the baby!" Whaaaaa? "Execution after birth is OK!" What in the name of hell...?
21:19: "There is no state in the country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born. VP Harris?" Linsey Davis isn't having his bullshit either.
21:21: Why is he harping on the lie that everyone wanted abortion back in the states?
21:23: "I didn't discuss it with JD. ... She'll never be able to get [the abortion law]. So it doesn't matter." And back to the lie about going back to the states.
21:25: "What you are putting her through is unconscionable." True. "I have been a leader on IVF!" False.
21:28: "The people of this country need a leader. ... Attend one of his rallies. He'll talk about Hannibal Lecter, about windmills. People leave out of exhaustion and boredom."
21:29: Oh, marvelous, he took the bait on the rallies.
21:30: "They're eating the dogs, eating the cats, eating the pets!" Whaaaaa...?
21:31: "This is one of the reasons why I have the endorsement of 200 Republicans. ... When we listen to this kind of rhetoric, when the issues are not being addressed, the people deserve better."
21:34: How would you deport 11 million undocumented immigrants? "They allowed criminals! Terrorists! Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria!"
21:36: According to the FBI, the "murder rate fell by 26.4%, reported rapes decreased by 25.7%, robberies fell by 17.8%, aggravated assault fell by 12.5%, and the overall violent crime rate went down by 15.2%" in the first 3 months of 2024.
21:37: "They're the ones that made them go after them! Joe Biden was found guilty on the documents case! My hand-picked judge, that I appointed after I lost the election, threw my case out!"
21:39: NYT Pitchbot: "Harris seems a little overprepared for this debate."
21:42: "A true leader understands the value of building people up, not beating people down." "My father only gave me a small fraction of that $400 million..." Wow, he's chasing every dog treat she throws at him. "I'm talking now. Does that sound familiar?" And there go the suburban women.
Wow, does this old man need a nap:
21:45: A long-time Daily Parker reader texts, "He's making faces like an orangutan." And the entire island of Borneo lodges a complaint.
21:47: My entire Facebook feed is about people eating their pets.
21:48: "I was in the capitol, bub. Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining." And let's not forget Charlottesville, and "fine people on both side." "We're not going back. It's time to turn the page."
21:50: Using Laura Inghram and Sean Hannity to say something is debunked? They build the bunks. They are bunkies. But whatever.
21:51: Old man is getting angrier. It's at this point where the bouncer comes over and says, "OK, Donnie, keep it down or we're going to have to go outside for a minute."
21:52: "I got more votes than any sitting president!" Yes, but your opponents got more votes both times.
21:53: Now he's shouting at the moderators. The bouncer looks at the bar manager and shrugs, but moves closer.
21:54: "World leaders are laughing at [the XPOTUS]. ... It leads one to believe [you] do not have the temperament, and the ability not to be confused." And he responds with Victor Orbán's endorsement.
21:55: "I ended the Nord Stream 2 pipeline!" Uh, no, Ukrainian Special Forces did. Unless...was he in the Ukrainian Special Forces?
21:59: Cassie has a comment about the debate:
22:02: Apparently, I don't get half of what he's saying because I don't read 4Chan.
22:09: OK, we're back, with a drink, because oh my god. "It's worse than the numbers you're getting and they're fake numbers." Whaaa...?
22:10: He still doesn't understand how NATO funding works. It's always transactional, and always someone else pays, and always it's not his fault.
22:11: Did he just admit to a violation of the Logan Act by meeting with Putin? And wow, his jaw is working hard.
22:12: "Tell the 800,000 Polish Americans right here in Pennsylvania how you would give up to the dictator who would eat you for lunch."
22:14: "Putin would have been sitting in Moscow, and he wouldn't have lost 300,000 men. ... And maybe he'll use [nuclear weapons]." WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. WHAT. THE. FUCKING. FUCK. But he didn't say whether he wants Ukraine to win.
22:17: "I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan. ... The first time this century no American soldier is on combat duty anywhere in the world."
22:19: "And this...[meaningful pause]...former president invited [the Taliban] to Camp David." Wow.
22:22: "Let's remember he was investigated for not renting to Black families. ... The Central Park Five full-page ad. ... Birther lies about the first Black president. The American people want better than this." And he defended his choice to slander the Central Park Five.
22:24: I'm just going to leave this Tweet from Betty Bowers right...here.
22:29: "So, just a yes or no, you still do not have a plan?" Oh, Linsey, you are wonderful.
22:32: "Access to health care should be a right, and not just a privilege for those who can afford it."
22:34: I have to say, as someone who lived through the 1980s and 1990s, there's some frission hearing that an American presidential candidate has the endorsement of Sinn Féin. Sorry, Sean Fain. See what I mean? (Gerry Adams could not be reached for comment.)
22:36: What is the old man yelling about now? Joe Biden getting paid by the mayor of Moscow's wife? OK, viejo, time to pay your tab and go home.
22:41: "Two visions ... the future, and the past ... and we're not going back. ... Having a plan. Understanding the aspirations, the hosts, the dreams ... Giving hardworking folks a break and bringing down the cost of living ... Sustaining American's standing in the world ... Protect our most fundamental rights and freedoms ... "
21:43: "They've had 3½ years ... why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now ... You believe in things like 'we're not going to frack' ... Germany tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants ... We're a failing nation ... serious decline ... all over the world they're laughing at us ... we're not a leader ... we don't have any idea what's going on ... Because of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry ... allowing millions of people to come into our country ... the worst president." Literally nothing at all about what he would do.
Well, the XPOTUS's campaign did not get Uncle Fluffy today, did they?
And will someone let that poor deranged old man have a nap?